Response to Dr. Celeste Martin, Dr. Allan Drusys Court Transcripts
Testimony Dr. Celeste Martin
Defendant’s Response to Court Transcripts
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6. Officer Huennekens recommended Dr Moss’s office for the herd check. It was not disclosed that Dr. Martin is Officer Huennekens personal Veterinarian for her horses or that Dr. Moss is the Veterinarian for FalconRidge horse rescue that Riverside County Animal Services and Animal Friends of the Valleys take seized horses. This is a conflict of interest and should have been disclosed.
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28. A herd check was done in May 2018. Every horses mouth was opened and checked. In 2016 every horses mouth was checked. In 2018 when the herd check was done only 5 horses was it recommended for the horses to get their teeth floated which the 5 were done. In February 2019 a herd check was done by DVM Fred Zadick. DVM Zadick had no issues with the horses or animals. During the trial Veterinarian Fred Zadick wanted to testify but he had vertigo so bad he could go. Debbie even suggested to Mr. Bruggeman a Zoom call. DVM Fred Zadick was so mad the horses were seized and that there was a trial he wrote the Judge a letter. Many volunteers that were not called to testify that witnessed what this trial is about they witnessed at that time the feeding, watering, mucking, care, grooming, training and are appalled that Craig and Debbie are going through this and wrote the Judge approximately March 2024.
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7. Craig and Debbie had a herd check in May 2018. 5 horses were 7 and over weight. Placed on a weight loss. 4 horses a 6. 26 horses a 5. 16 horses a 4. 7 horses a 3 and 1 horse a 2 which was Callie a 40 year old horse. It was recommended Callie have bloodwork. It wasn’t recommended she be euthanized. 1 horse that was a 3 had sand in the belly. 2 horses that’s a 3 to increase food. 4 get a teeth float 1 already had. Every horse was checked. Every mouth was checked. Only 5 horses were recommended to have their teeth floated which they were done. DVM Charles Edgerly checked the horses mouth in 2016 and whatever was needed he did, between 2016 to 2018 in 2018 only 5 horses were recommended to get their teeth floated. Which they were done. DVM Edgerly trained Craig and Debbie about when a horse needs only wet feed which they do. There was a herd check in February 2019.
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1. 2021 was colder, wetter, snowy, windy, more than usual. At 2600 ft on top of a mountain gets very windy and in this case knocking over horse shade covers, trees, kids swing sets, blows shingles off roofs, blows down horse tack sheds. It was still in the 30’s and 40’s into May. Most of the horses still had their winter coats. It is known horses lose weight in the winter months because they burn off calories to stay warm. These horses their feed was never decreased only increased including alfalfa and grain. At the time Diamond Valley Feed their hay wasn’t to Craig and Debbie’s standards and it was purchased somewhere else. Debbie has photos of the severe weather which should have been introduced in court.
The majority of the horses from other Veterinarians that have viewed the horses in the past the horses were 5’s and 4’s. Only approximately 10 looked thinner and probably due to the cold their feed doubled. All the horses their feed increased. Never decreased. When Dr. Lindsay Crowley Hower came out July 15, 2021 and she had no concerns. She said the horses weight ranged from 2 which is Callie to 5/9.
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10. Many times the donkeys would have to be placed on a diet including the mini horses. Once they began shedding in May 2021 it was noticed they were thinner and their feed was doubled.
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You can place a rubber mat in a horses stall and they will move their hay to be on the dirt. Most horses if you drive around the horses eat off of dirt and if they have a shade cover they don’t use it. They like to sun bath and stand in the rain.
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Craig and Debbie were taught by DVM Charles Edgerly preventative ways to lessen colic such as hosing down the hay.
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1. Craig and Debbie disagree that there was 33 horses a 3 or below. Debbie has photos the majority of horses that are 5’s and 4’s. When Dr. Crowley Hower came out she was not concerned about the weight of the horses. She came out right after Dr. Martin and noted on her report no horse appears to be abused or neglected. Have her come back out in 6 months.
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1. Diamond Valley Feed was just down the road. Craig and Debbie easily can hook up the trailer which they did to buy hay or grain. Normally purchased 3 days worth of hay and grain. Hay is very flammable. It gets brown quick. Diamond Valley Feed at times wasn’t having the best hay. The horses were in 5 very large pastures and 21 horse stalls. Craig and Debbie didn’t just have alfalfa and alfa horse pellets and senior feed on hand. There is always rice bran and 3 way or oats. Debbie has hundreds of photos of the golf cart for feeding stacked high of hay bales feeding horses. There was no competition or fighting for hay or grain.
2. Craig responded saying he would have to ask his wife. Many of the horses they had promised the previous owners that the horses are retired, a sanctuary horse to never be sold. Having the horses some since 2012 Craig and Debbie should be able to decide which horses they can sell if someone asks them.
18. Craig and Debbie had some horses up for sale. 1 for $2,000 that the person was just about to pick up and another for $1,500 that that person was going to pick up. After the herd check by Dr. Martin Craig and Debbie were told they were not to sell any horses. There had been an ad on Craigslist selling some horses until they were told they could not sell any of the horses.
24. Craig and Debbie’s farrier had gotten ill and his daughter was having mental issues but there was during that time trimming hooves. One came from Bonsal. Between May 2021 and October 2021 they had had 3 different farriers trimming hooves. Mr. Bruggeman did have an email for at least 1 year of those farrier receipts and in the 5 inch binder. Horses hooves were being trimmed. Teeth floating was done May 2018. The next herd check was done in 2019.
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1. It’s the personal opinion of Dr. Martin that it was a hoarding situation. In 2017 the ranch stopped taking in horses and was selling some of the horses. Several of the horses were purchased from Craig and Debbie and were personal horses. Many the previous horse’s owners spent thousands of dollar for the horses such as Trooper a hunter jumper that the previous owner paid $200,000 for. One such as Gorgeous George $8,000. Several such as Goldie the Palomino Parade horse $3,500. The previous owner was promised by Craig and Debbie the horse would never be sold. A couple of the horses the previous owner never wanted the horse sold such as Little Charlie the previous owner was promised should Craig and Debbie no longer want the horse that they were to give him back.
8. Craig and Debbie had been rescuing horses since 2012 and had 4 years of training in the care of horses by a highly respected Veterinarian Charles Edgerly. They were trained like a Vet Tech would be.
16. Debbie has hundreds of photos the majority of the horses were not underweight. They were walked, exercised and groomed. Dr. Celeste Marin is a conflict of interest and should never have been recommended by Lt. Huennekens. Dr. Martin works for Dr. Moss at Temecula Creek Veterinary. Dr. Moss is also the Veterinarian for FalconRidge horse rescue which is where Lt. Huennekens would seize the horses and take approximately 30 horse to FalconRidge. Currently Dr. Martin is Board of Director and Veterinarian to another horse rescue Sale Ranch. It is a conflict of interest for an Animal Control officer to recommend a certain Veterinary office and one of the Veterinarian is like the personal Veterinarian for Lt. Huennekens personal horses and then seize the horses and then send them to a horse rescue where in this case Dr. Moss would be the Veterinarian. This should have been disclosed when recommending Dr. Moss. There was at least $100,000 market value horses seized when just after Dr. Martin examined these horses. Just alone Craig and Debbie’s personal Tennessee Walking horses would cost at least $5,000 each now to replace. Many of the horses could sell for a minimum of $2,000 each. Dr. Moss’s office was notified and they called Craig and recommended a Vet of his choice which was Mt. Laramie and refunded the fee and said he discussed with Animal Control to pull the report. Mt. Laramie’s office was immediately called and an appointment was scheduled and she had no concerns about the health of the horses.
Testimony Dr. Allan Drusys
Defendant’s Response to Court Transcripts
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2. The cats were in a 8 x 10 insulated log cabin with a vent on the roof under a 200 year old oak tree. Allan Drusys was provided with incorrect information.
Testimony Allan Drusys
Defendant’s Response to Court Transcripts
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18. The bale of is the biggest available.
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1. Before JJ came to Oak Meadows Ranch the owner Elizabeth Wiley had JJ looked at by several Veterinarians. This is why Elizabeth should have been called to testify. It was determined by Veterinarians JJ was not in pain or suffering. Once JJ came to Oak Meadows Ranch he was under the care of DVM Charles which he agreed JJ was not in pain and wasn’t suffering. Volunteer Kathy Smith would clean his leg and do what Charles Edgerly recommended doing for JJ.
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1. Debbie has photos and videos of Myrtle and Poppy when they arrived to Oak Meadows Ranch. They were put into temporary quarantine. Then they would be moved to a 24 x 48 stall. They were approximately 40 years old and had no reason to be taken to an arena such is what Melodee did. No one ever told Debbie that Poppy had an issue. That was one of the problems with Melodee she would only tell Craig. Debbie did tell whatever Melodee tells Craig Debbie needs to know. June 2, 2017 when Animal Control came to visit Debbie knew nothing about an issue with Poppy other than it appeared she was mourning her companion Myrtle. On June 2, 2017 when Craig was in Utah helping his sick Dad Debbie when doing her morning drive around the ranch checking on horses etc. It was a habit when Debbie was checking on the ranch in the morning she would take photos and videos which Debbie did take a video of Poppy. Poppy had already eaten and was resting. Debbie didn’t think anything was unusual.
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1. Officer Middleton gave incorrect information on the dog kennel sizes. There were 8 outside dog kennels. Dog kennels that had not changed in 1 ½ years inspected several times by Animal Control. Animal Control never had an issue with the dog kennels. 2 were heavy duty 10 x 10. 1 a chain link 10 x 10 and 4 5 x 10. 1 4 x 16 where the Pomeranians were taken out first thing in the morning. Left out for about 1 hour then brought in then repeat afternoon then evening. All had Igloo dog houses on concrete pavers. A couple of them had pavers and horse rubber mat. None had dirt. They had wind screens, each 20 quart horse bucket for water, misters. Hosed out around 6 AM then repeat around 10 AM repeat around 3 PM repeat in the evening. River rock was placed around the exterior part of the pavers directing rain water when it rains. Debbie picked up every river rock from around the ranch and placed them around the dog kennels. Debbie did the same thing around the chicken coops directing rain water. Right before Animal Control came the outside dog kennels were hosed out. When Craig and Debbie left approximately 10 AM June 6, 2017 there was no visible feces.
5. There was a separation between dog kennels. It was on a hill. The kennels were cleaned with bleach once a week. The river rocks directed the water so the way it was set up water from other kennels weren’t going into the other dog kennels.
21. There were 5 to 7 pound Pomeranians in dog crates big enough for both to stand up and turn around and still have more room. They were all spayed and neutered. Mom, Dad, Adult brothers and sisters that choose who they want to sleep with. When Craig and Debbie were there the dog crate was left open. It was for their safety to be with a closed crate door because someone kept opening and closing any door on the ranch letting animals out when Craig and Debbie weren’t there.
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1. It was a 39 ft luxury 5th wheel with 3 slide outs. It has 2 air conditioners that you can set the temperature which it was always set at 72. It had a ceiling vent had would open and close automatically. The sq ft was as big as a 1 bedroom apartment. More incorrect information Officer Middleton stated.
4. The Pomeranians were on bath size large clean bath towels from Walmart not hand towels. There was 1 German Shepherd in an appropriate size dog crate for a German Shepherd. He hurt his paw and he was inside to stay off his foot. All had water. There was not 2 German Shepherds inside the RV in a dog crate.
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1. The outside dogs were security dogs that ran the ranch 3 at a time. At night when they weren’t patrolling they slept inside the 5th wheel RV. The photo in court was not the 5th wheel RV it was a 24 ft business motorhome.
17. The chickens layed eggs. They were pets to Debbie and from April 2012 eating their eggs or selling their eggs was not a priority. Some asked to buy them and at a time around 2014 Debbie did but there wasn’t much interest from visitors so Debbie stopped. Not worth the hassle. To Debbie she was interested in baby chicks hatching and selling adult size purebred chickens. Not interested in selling baby chicks. Usually Debbie would trade an adult size hen for something. From January 2017 to June 2017 a live in ranch hand was caring for the chickens and other animals in exchange for free rent. The ranch hand would give the chickens water daily in a 2 gallon galvanized water container purchased each for approximately $28 dollars from Tractor Supply. Each chicken coop had 1. The large chicken coop with the screened in patio area had 2. The upside down Sparklets water bottle hadn’t been used for approximately 6 months it was broken. The ranch hand would clean out the chicken coops and put the manure in empty horse grain 50 pound bags. The chicken manure was purchased by gardeners. Under the No Smoking sign was 3 metal trash cans. 1 contained Chicken Scratch, 1 Chicken Lay Mash and 1 Diatomaceous earth which is gray. An empty chicken scratch bag would be placed on top of the Chicken Scratch and Chicken Lay Mash to protect the feed from moisture or rain. Near by was a bag of pine shavings. Inside the chicken coops pine shavings and diatomaceous earth.
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1. The chicken coops were well ventilated. The smaller ones a 2 story and the upper level windows and drilled hole openings. The large chicken coop had many screened in windows. The chicken door was open to the chicken patio area so they could decide if they wanted to in or out.
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15. Craig and Debbie always had Banamine available. Craig was trained by DVM Charles Edgerly how to administrate a shot. DVM Charles Edgerly trained Craig on colic and when its time to call a Veterinarian.
28. Craig and Debbie buy the powered form of Bute.
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7. Giving mineral oil before and after colic has helped many horses.
14. Craig and Debbie have experienced a well know Veterinarian kill a horse giving a gallon of mineral oil.
Lies to the DA, Judge & Jury from Prosecution Witnesses
Rosemarie Eisner, Holly Wilcox, Melodee Latta, David Boyd, Jill Boyd, Tim Hieter, Officer Monquenec Middleton, Therron Hubbell, Bill Hepburn, Dr. Susan Eyer-Anderson, Lt. Lesley Huennekens, Dr. Celeste Martin, Dr. Allan Drusys
